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« on: January 18, 2010, 10:56:55 am »

AAR to Follow, still unpacking and all that.
Thanks to everyone who made it out!  A lot of good things were learned all around this weekend. 
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 11:38:44 am »

But for now at least...some pictures...
Ladies and Gentlemen, the graduates of Recon School 2010...

Learning a bit about the 392, one of our principle patrol radios for EW.

Patrol receives its briefing from its section leader.

Recon patrol heads out with OC/Instructor Warnick bringing up the Rear.

Delivering Hot Chow out to the Patrol Base

Waiting in the messline, a popular pasttime whether in garrison or the field...

Mmmmmm....hot beef stew....

Patrol Leader keeping a watchful eye on his men.

In the spirit of unity and fraternal brotherhood, the HoHo's were split evenly between the members of the team.

Or it seems that the HoHo's were at training, but Moon wasn't...


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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 12:08:25 pm »

Sustain:

Basic of reconnaissance class that was given on Friday night.  

Using mermite to get food out to patrol base.  

The establishment of a patrol base and conduct of patrol base operations.

Constant presence of either an instructor or advisor with the class participants.

Hourly radio check ins without any other radio raffic.

Improve:

Break up instruction into three sections with immediate practical application of the lesson.  Breaking up the instruction and the immediate feedback from the application will reinforce the lessons learned.

You need to get a topo of the area you’re working in.  This will also help out will teaching basic land nav to newer guys.

PCI and knowledge check before step-off.  You need to make sure your guys have what they need both in their pack and in their mind.  Check equipment prior to step off will save hours in the field.  Review necessary knowledge with your troops to ensure that they know both what is happening on the mission and a quick reminder of the basics land nav, movement, and conduct of operations.  

Conduct of patrol base operations.  This includes choosing a location, layout within, and conduct of security.  During chow call security became very weak.  Personnel from HQ delivering food will establish the bulk of meal time security to allow members of the patrol to eat and resume operations quickly.  We had a brief class over this on Sunday morning.

Patrols need to have some sort of portable food to carry.  Items that patrol members can snack on between the fixed meals. People need to eat, but operations cannot be halted just to feed your men.  The enemy will not care if you’re taking a lunch break, they will shoot you.  
Possible fix for this may be a supplemental patrol ration or possibly just issuing a field ration for one of the day’s meals.  

Land navigation skills.  Everyone needs to know their pace count and have a compass.  

Everyone out there did a good job this weekend.  Don’t forget what you learned both about reconnaissance and about basic patrolling.  Keep up the good work and focus.  
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2010, 04:44:14 pm »

Plan:
We leave 10:00am to set up patrol base.
After:
Zone Recon of Section North of Patrol Base
Area Recon of section East of Patrol Base

Additional Orders
To recon area of additional area East of PB of enemy activity.

What Happened.
Left 10:05
Established a Patrol Base 50M – East of Intended Area

PL Scouted around as to where to put people.
Set up Security/Sleeping Hides.
Set up Shelter for potential inclimate weather. Forecast was for rain and 34F.

Local Recon Patrols North and East.  More screening patrols than zone/area.

Lunch was in the form of Hot C ration (Beef Stew and Bread) that was brought in by mess service (Conklin, Wells, Wittlich).

FRAGO issued for East Area for Scanning Enemy Activity.
Plan for North area – Zone Recon in 2 passes, but adjusted based on things we encountered. (Loggers in area presented both recon targets AND problematic for the exercise.)

Due to Navigational complications patrol was not exactly sure of its location in area north of the patrol base.  .

Dinner was in the form of Hot B ration (Sauerkraut, Sausage, Mashed Potatoes and Bread).

Night watch posted and regular top of the hour check ins made with HQ via 392 wireless.

Reville at 6:00
Leader briefed that “we’ll be quiet”, load up gear, and mess for 7:00.

Set up security with Helsinger, Keiper, and Kaz.
Broke Camp.

Mess @ 07:00
Area recon to East.
J/O @ 08:30
RTPB @ 09:30

OTJT for Patrol Base location and situation with Warnick, Staggenborg, Wells at PB. 9:30 – 9:45.

Patrol RTB 10:00

Issues that Happened:
-Off course on RTB and patrol came in “scattered” and “haphazard”.
   Fix- Maintain vigilance while on the march whether it is out or in.  Stand down    occurs once you’re back at base and debriefed.
-General Navigational Difficulties.
   Fix- Contiued training in general land navigation to all team members.
-Lack of Pace Count Info
   Fix- Continued training in landnav by leadership to team members.  Teach pace    counting etc..
-Not every person had a compass
-Compass Work
-Terrain Association
   -Issues with Map –insufficient information
-Equipment Issues
   -Forgetting to Bring Things
      Fix- PCI, Everytime, ALL THE TIME.
   -Parkas for Cold Weather
      Fix- Team members to understand the weather situation during mission          brief and understand that “recommended” gear can quickly become          “required” gear in the right/wrong situation.
-Lack of Pre Patrol Inspection to insure that everyone had appropriate gear.
      Fix- Maintain PrePatrol Inspections
-Noise Discipline
   -Vocal
   -Clanging gear/helmets
      Fix- Further instruction that “recon naked” also applies to your noise level.
-Light Discipline
   Red light out of shelter
   Checking SOI/MAP using redlight partially covered.
      Fix- Short of taking flashlights from all teammembers, continued light          discipline instruction and understanding by leadership and teammembers.
-Tactical Preparation
      Fix- Increase potential for instruction on general tactics/situational topics.
-Lack of fieldcraft expertise
      Fix- Increase training opportunities for fieldcraft situations for             teammembers, especially more inexperienced ones.
-Intervals
-Keeping Formation
-Movement lack of “looking around/security” during halts etc.
-Lack of “looking back” in the formation.
-Section Leader Hording Supplies Needed for Troops.
      Fix- Again, fieldcraft training opportunities.

Things that happened well –Sustain/Improve:
Stew – Sustain Food
Kraut went well.
Good Leadership from Senior Guys
Squad leaders looking out for people.
Buddy System
Call in procedure for radios at top of the hour–SAVES BATTERIES, keeps transmissions short and sweet, makes for all around good technique.
Security for mess periods.  Teams that bring food out will become both mess services and security detail for whole patrol.  This allows all patrol members to stand down for a few, get some food, relax for a few minutes before they’re back up and online.  Recommend at least 2 member security element with 1 food server.
Classroom time on Friday evening/night.  Good to give general outline/information.  Posting of the schedule so that everyone has an idea of what is going on.  Then field practical the next day.  Look at breaking it up into at least 2 sections of instruction and then direct field practical.  Be mindful of throwing too much out there at once.  Small bites will make a more easily digested meal.

Event Planning sustain/improve
Oatmeal/Bread doesn’t sustain, add more items –ham/eggs.
Right amount of food for lunch.
Did dinner hold? – IF YOU EAT IT ALL! –Yes –Need to make sure everyone is eating their ration, whether they don’t want to eat it or not.  Its designed for a specific number of calories to keep troops going, they need to eat it all to maintain energy levels that have been prescribed.
Classroom vs Field Instruction/Practical, good combo.
Projector for presentations would be a major improvement.
Time hacks on the whole were only off administratively 5-10 minutes in most cases (meal targets etc…) focus more on being “delivery minded” when it comes to meal situation.  If mess is at 6:00 make sure it will be at 6:00.



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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 10:24:10 am »

Notes from Mike (Hell) debrief and my observations.

1) Although we used only an aerial photo with an "approximate" grid, I was pleased with our results.  Looking at the blank map and the "finished product" of the patrol, we added a lot of information to the map.  Sending this section out again, now that they know the ropes, we should be able to add a LOT of information to a map in a 24 hour period (well, the daylight hours especially)

SOP idea- since maps generally vary in terms of accuracy, upon entering AO, adding things to the map is a priority.  We did this the last couple years, just thought I'd mention.


2) Radio check-ins.  Worked very well once everyone got into the swing of things.  Section leader had to encode some messages later in the day to streamline the operation and end the problem of late check-ins that took too long (after being ordered to check in on time).  

SOP idea- order check-in interval in "comms" section of MISORD, provide contingency comms info (possibly to monitor radio if you hear firing, call in super-important information regardless of time, etc)

Radio performance- Identified one 392 battery that may be a lemon (PM'ing serial# to Brett).  Overall, the section operated its radio well, and maintained quite acceptable radio procedure!  *comms guy hat on* I'm very pleased with this, despite early troubles with SOI by under-trained troops and a couple PROWORD hiccups.


3) Noise discipline- It was easy to hear the difference Sunday morning!  Nice n quiet at the PB!


4) Patrol RTB- we need some sort of SOP for entering/leaving the wire.  Bit of a pain, but will be well worth it when it's practiced.  For example, leave the wire, do a listening halt and radio check.  Coming back in, a security halt and radio in for permission to enter lines.  This allows the section a chance to see if they're being followed, maybe even send someone around to cover their trail.  (Two birds with one stone in each case)


5) Navigation issues- Helsinger reported plenty of mentoring going on between the experienced and inexperienced guys, but noted that a lot more nav teaching could go on if people had compasses.


6) Equipment issues- Now we see how necessary the "real life" equipment issue can be!

SOP idea- improve PCI methods.  Do Section Leaders need a "cheat sheet"?

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Ah-hem.

*CO hat on*  This statement covers all equipment issues.  

You guys DID read the part of the event announcement that said "bring all your EW gear" right?  I'm sure everyone that forgot something felt a little sheepish and learned the lesson?  I understand that some of you aren't experienced woodsmen and/or have only recently got their feet wet in Eastwind related stuff.

That being said, we're damn lucky we were at Brett's and not Cedar Creek.  Not having a compass or proper clothing, etc, in a National Forest will MAKE YOU A CASUALTY.  From an event admin point of view, Eastwind Command wants you guys to be safe (hypothermia, illness, and getting lost in the woods come to mind).  From the point of view of a military unit- #1, you could become a casualty from the cold/wet.  #2, you ruin unit effectiveness by not being properly equipped.  #3 you become a burden to the command structure, tying up valuable manpower/equipment assets that could cost us lives and victory (in the gameplay sense).

Another issue here is HONESTY.  During PCI, speak up if you don't have something!  It's better to admit it than to really foul things up in the field hours later!  We ultimately rely on each other- we're a TEAM.  DO NOT COMPROMISE YOUR TEAM JUST TO SAVE FACE.  Forgetting a compass or piece of clothing for an airsoft game isn't a big deal...but at EW, it is not a game.

*CO hat off*  

So...guys...I implore you-

Please identify what you need to purchase for EWIII and/or identify what you forgot and put it in your pack for deployment!!!  At EWIII...you will be a liability.  This is serious business, in a gameplay and more importantly in a REAL LIFE sense.  It's easy to correct problems when it's 36° and damp near the training HQ...not always so easy though.

I ain't hatin', but take this message to heart.  I'm proud of you guys- especially you young and inexperienced guys- for coming out to training and seeing it through.  Most people would rather stay home in front of the TV with Cheetos.

If you have ANY questions, there are several people you can ask and get an answer from in about an hour's time!!!



*CO hat back on*

Uhoh...another bitch session?!?

NOTE TAKING!!!

We all learned that recon patrol members MUST TAKE GOOD NOTES!  However, during debrief, where were your good notes?  The info was verbally passed to the Section Leader.  What if he got smoked?  What if all his equipment was eaten by vengeful opossums?  

You guys took lousy notes.  

To you younger guys who are about to start college- you're smart cookies, so maybe you can skate through high school (I sure as hell did).  But when you hit college, you haven't learned to take good notes, and suddenly coursework is a lot harder.  

Take good notes.  Not lengthy notes, but write down important stuff.  Throw a time stamp in every now and then so you can put it all together the next day.

At EW, you will be mentally fatigued- that is, your memory will go to hell in a handbasket.  You will not be able to remember what happened when/where/why in a debrief.

TAKE GOOD NOTES.

Got it?  Good.

*Hat off*

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7) Mess-related stuff.

a) We need to make sure we have lids for all pots.  Ex- kraut took a while to cook because of volume and liquid content.  A lid would have let the liquid steam up and make the cook time shrink considerably.

b) Breakfast protein- I'd say 4-6oz is about right?  

c) Mermites- they worked well even though we didn't pre-heat the internal pans!  If we'd do that, even better performance.

d) Food delivery is definitely easier in daylight hours.


Cool Helsinger's thoughts on debrief:

a) He said he wasn't too sure how to use his 2IC.  After the exercise, he's confident he can utilize his "right-hand man."  (He noted that he felt like he would have been "putting his work on the 2IC" but says that he understands now that the leader has to delegate so his plate is not full when new stuff comes down the pipe.)

b) He commented on mentoring- this only reinforces the fact that it is important for experienced guys to come out to training- they help raise the EB side's overall level of knowledge by passing along theirs.



9) Misc.  

a) I'm happy with the progress of our SOI!  We'll be fielding a very useful "call sheet" at EWIII.



This was a really engaging weekend from my perspective- and I didn't even get to go stompin' around in the woods with the patrol!  (I'm continually amazed at how much can be learned on the "other end" of a training op)  I think everyone involved had a good time and learned a lot, and it was a very beneficial exercise in preparation for EWIII.  Thanks to everyone who made it possible!



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