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« on: February 24, 2014, 05:26:33 am »

Is putting PSO/POSP on AKs-74n appropriate or no?
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 06:22:39 am »

Well - not really correct.

I am not going to stop somebody if they happen to have one - but would prefer we not go crazy with it since it is rather obvious.
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 07:39:47 am »

Well - not really correct.

I am not going to stop somebody if they happen to have one - but would prefer we not go crazy with it since it is rather obvious.
I'll leave mine at home then.
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 08:39:15 am »

Apparently a very rare occasion, but here's a pic:
http://www.ak-info.ru/joomla/index.php/devices/9-optics/101-pso1manual

Also, consider putting a scope form RPG-7 on the AK Smiley
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/002342/2342800.jpg
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 02:06:37 pm »

Well, I have always had a PSO scope on my AKS74. However, I'm weird. I think it would be good for at least one person in a group to have one scope that they could use if they wanted to. It wouldn't have to be mounted on the weapon at all times. We are Recon, so optics are useful if you know how to use them. Its not correct for every guy in the section to have a scope, that's obvious.


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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 03:49:08 pm »

Mind downloading or otherwise sharing that PGO-7 pic? I've got one and am curious what photo that is, but I get a 403 Forbidden error trying to get at it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 05:01:37 pm »

Because - remember it would take not only having the scope - but then getting a new rail mounting to fit the AK rail -not the SVD or RPG.


Would much rather see folks using proper binos.

However- the idea of having the scope (PSO or PGO) in a pouch or pocket to be used in place of binos seems very reasonable and something a resourceful soldier might have done.
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 05:11:40 pm »

Binos are a pretty big deal.  There is PLENTY of places I intend to send Recon teams, that will require optics.... and weapon mounted stuff sucks plenty for the job.  Trying to hold it up for a few minutes is tiring, let alone doing it over and over again for hours.

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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 07:54:54 pm »

I agree with Stagg. Binos are much better than a scope. In a pinch, you can always side the scope off of the weapon and use it like a monocular, but that's not ideal. Plus, PSO/PSOP scopes have a weird eye relief that makes it hard to use unless they are mounted on a good replica weapon. The rubber eye cups help a lot with that, but can be hard to use with goggles.

Really, the only good thing about having a low power scope on your AEG is being able to see if your BBs are hitting your target. Grin However, its easy to get "tunnel vision" with a scope and ignore your surroundings... to your peril.


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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2014, 11:15:35 am »

Mind downloading or otherwise sharing that PGO-7 pic? I've got one and am curious what photo that is, but I get a 403 Forbidden error trying to get at it.

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Here are more pictures:
http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/10/490248.html
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« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 11:41:20 am »

Just remember, the goal is to be "as issued".  We're looking for the norms, not the exceptions.
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« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2014, 01:43:31 pm »

What are the exact norms for Soviet Recon field teams regarding optics of any kind? We don't make extensive use of scopes, except night vision, as it is. It would be cool for Section leaders to have some kind of optic (binocular, monocular, scope, etc.) to use for examining objects from a distance and measuring ranges (if the optic has a range finding reticle).

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2014, 03:00:42 pm »

What are the exact norms for Soviet Recon field teams regarding optics of any kind? We don't make extensive use of scopes, except night vision, as it is. It would be cool for Section leaders to have some kind of optic (binocular, monocular, scope, etc.) to use for examining objects from a distance and measuring ranges (if the optic has a range finding reticle).

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The norms for a Soviet motor rifles squad that's just dumbly carrying out the service time would be - do the bare minimum so the praporschik won't bitch too much.
The norms for a Recon squad that actually has to work - do whatever you can with what you got, especially considering that equipment keeps getting stolen and broken.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2014, 06:13:12 pm »

Norms?

http://www.operationeastwind.com/forum/index.php?topic=653.0

So for "option 1"

http://ryadovoy.ru/militarizm/orgstruktures/inf&tank_sovet/podr_bodivizii/ORG_ORB/org_MS(T)Div_ORB_rr_1.htm


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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2014, 06:16:16 pm »

I need a set of BI-8's.   Sad
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